Zofia Kulik and Marysia Lewandowska; Dabrowa; 29/10/86

In this private conversation between artists Zofia Kulik and Marysia Lewandowska (recorded in Polish) Kulik talks about her collaboration with Przemyslaw Kwiek - her husband and lifetime art collaborator, and the larger context of the 70s and the 80s in communist Poland. The year 1986 seems to be very significant for Kulik; she says that she and Przemyslaw are in an interim period. They have a sense that something has finished and yet nothing new has started. Kulik explains the concept of Pracownia Działań, Dokumentacji i Upowszechniania (PDDiU) [Atelier of Activities, Documentation and Popularization] which she run together with Kwiek in semi-public institutional framework. They established an archive, an inseparable part of their artistic practice, and collected slides, films, recordings and other documents, creating a critical body of art documentation, related to both their art practice and that of others.

Kulik speaks about the role of the artist in society, the language of public art discourse and the institutionalization of the arts. One of the crucial themes of the talk is devoted to the economic and political changes in Poland and its consequences, in terms of public thinking about art, but about how artists are rethinking their role and practice.

A fragment of the conversation deals with the beginning of a new art institution in Warsaw, Centre for Contemporary Art Ujazdowski Castle. The conversation has a very critical, personal and touching character, although momentary is quite cryptic and broad.


Accession No. WAA.001
Artist: Zofia Kulik and Marysia Lewandowska
Container annotation: in Polish
Place/Year: Dabrowa 29/10/86
Type: Private Conversation
Technical aspects: Low but still graspable sound. Damaged at the end of Side A.
Duration: 90'
Tape capacity: 90
Tape brand: BASF